BLM looking for input on Southern California Desert mines

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  • rhartill
    Advanced Explorer
    Mojave Outlaw
    • Jun 2008
    • 226

    BLM looking for input on Southern California Desert mines

    The Bureau of Land Management (BLM), California Desert District (CDD)
    Office, is giving notice to initiate a public scoping period and conduct
    public meetings to identify issues and formulate alternatives for a
    programmatic environmental assessment (PEA). The PEA will address
    remediation of physical safety hazards associated with abandoned mined
    lands (AML) on public lands managed by the BLM in the CDD.

    Public meetings will be held on May 27, 2009 in Ridgecrest at the
    Matarango Room, Marriot Spring Hill Suites at 113 E. Sydnor Avenue; and
    on May 28, 2009 in Yucca Valley at the Yucca Room, Community Services
    Department, 57090 Twentynine Palms Highway. Both meetings will begin at
    6:00 pm.

    Preliminary considerations include: (1) existing studies, available
    inventories, and on-going AML site investigations: (2) remediation
    techniques: (3) AML sites located on adjacent or nearby, non-Federal
    lands and non-public land surface over federally owned minerals: (4) and
    energy and mineral developments on public lands. AML sites not
    considered in this EA include those with chemical or water quality
    issues; sites in Wilderness and Wilderness Study Areas; and sites with
    identified primary responsible parties.

    The CDD will also coordinate the NEPA public comment process to satisfy
    Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA) (16 U.S.C.
    470f) as provided for in 36 CFR 800.2(d)(3). A preferred alternative
    will be developed by the CDD based on analysis of techniques presented
    in the PEA.

    The next major opportunity for public review and comment will be offered
    with the publication of the draft programmatic EA. Please send comments
    and questions to the BLM AML Program address in the address below
    regarding this email or the public meetings.

    California Desert District Office – 22835 Calle San Juan de Los Lagos,
    Moreno Valley, CA 92553
  • Mike
    Administrator
    True Mojave
    • Sep 2007
    • 1050

    #2
    I got the letter also. About two weeks ago. I'd love to attend and offer input, but Cali is a bit out of my budget right now
    -Fish
    Mojave Mine Team
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    • Mike Schriber
      Advanced Explorer
      Mojave Cowboy
      • Dec 2008
      • 82

      #3
      I think I'll send a letter although I doubt it'll do any good.

      Mike
      Underground Explorers
      California Abandoned Mine Exploration


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      • Mike Schriber
        Advanced Explorer
        Mojave Cowboy
        • Dec 2008
        • 82

        #4
        Hmmmm... thinking about this some more. I wonder if I should send it from me or Underground Explorers. Anyone have any experience in these types of hearings to offer a recommendation? I'm guessing they don't like groups like ours but...

        Mike
        Underground Explorers
        California Abandoned Mine Exploration


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        • Mike
          Administrator
          True Mojave
          • Sep 2007
          • 1050

          #5
          Hey Mike. You ought to go to the meeting. We always felt the same way as you; that groups like ours were shunned by the gov. While we likely are, we have been making successful headway with the State of Utah in the protection of abandoned mine sites, and the acceptance that many of us love venturing deep into our earth.

          My best recommendation for you is to go in with an accepting view that many mines actually do pose a safety hazard, and that you accept that. However, many mines are quite safe, and hold historical and geological relics.

          We petition to the DOGM that we have the experience and the equipment to properly explore abandoned mines, and that specific mine sites, elected by a group (Recommend forming an NPO, 501(c)3 in particular) should be protected from reclamation by the State.

          Its taken time in Utah, but we've finally been able to soften the hardest AMRP State in the west into looking at an alternative view to abandoned mines reclamation. I think the key to working with these programs is the acceptance of safety hazards, and a solid goal you would like to present to the state.

          Visit this meeting first to get an idea of how the State program functions. Give them your views; you are mine historians and explorers, and that you feel the reclamation plan is destructive to the history that made the west what it is.

          Best of luck to you! Let me know if you want some more pointers.
          -Fish
          Mojave Mine Team
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          • Mike Schriber
            Advanced Explorer
            Mojave Cowboy
            • Dec 2008
            • 82

            #6
            Well, the meetings have passed so those are out. It may be possible to make future meetings but it's iffy. The closest location is a 3-4 hour drive away. Forming a non-profit might be helpful but honestly is unlikely. We're all stretched thin on time as it is. I'd likely be the only one willing to take the time and I simply don't have it. Between business and family, I'm lucky I get the time to explore as it is.

            I'll work on a letter. I actually think the hazards presented by abandoned mines are overblown. Government lands are filled with dangers. Rock climbers are injured all the time and deaths are not uncommon (expensive rescues are not uncommon either). The same goes for hikers and other outdoor and adventure activities which take place on state and federal lands. Mine deaths in California are very uncommon. Closing mines are a solution without a problem. You just can't prevent people from bring stupid. It seems that they have a thing about mines however. Maybe it's because they're man-made and not natural features but some states have gone after caves as well so I don't really know.

            Argh. I get worked up just thinking about it.

            Mike
            Underground Explorers
            California Abandoned Mine Exploration


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            • Derek
              Advanced Explorer
              Mojave Outlaw
              • Jul 2008
              • 340

              #7
              Well said Mike, well said.
              -Derek
              Mojave Mine Team

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