Park City orders property owners to seal old mine holes

[ExpUt]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51788739-78/park-mine-owners-property.html.csp

[Jeff]

Thanks for the post Kurt. It would be interesting to see what kind of inventory numbers the private property owners come up with.

[Joanne]

Once again we are going to lose more of our mining history. I'm still astonished that these officials seem to have no idea that they are destroying a large segment of our mining heritage. I would have less heartburn if they gated the adits, but many will be closed so they can never be accessed again. I just don't understand the obsession with closing mines.

I don't know if this makes any sense, but it seems like many of these people feel guilty about past mining activities. Almost like we have defaced "mother earth" and are trying to wipe out the "sins" of the past. Has the green movement become its own religion?

Joanne

[Devin]

This is one more step by big government to strip rights away from private citizens and private property owners.

Joanne I think you are right on with the green movement...It certainly seems as though they worship the creation, not the creator--putting 'mother earth' above anything else, which is unfortunate and dangerous.

[acidman1968]

Once again we are going to lose more of our mining history. I'm still astonished that these officials seem to have no idea that they are destroying a large segment of our mining heritage. I would have less heartburn if they gated the adits, but many will be closed so they can never be accessed again. I just don't understand the obsession with closing mines.

I don't know if this makes any sense, but it seems like many of these people feel guilty about past mining activities. Almost like we have defaced "mother earth" and are trying to wipe out the "sins" of the past. Has the green movement become its own religion?

Joanne

Unfortunately, I'd have to say "yes", the green movement is pretty much a religion these days...

Three years ago I posted this question on Yahoo! Answers:

Are Global Warming & Environmentalism becoming "new religions" of the 21st century?

In many cases, you've got people repeating the same information - chapter & verse - without really understanding the data/information they're quoting - but it sounds good, so they quote it to convince the "unbelieving infidel". Is it so different than people from any/every religion quoting verses from the Bible, Quran, Book of Mormon, or Torah - to try and convince people of the "truthfulness of their cause"?

On one hand, you've got the zealot believers of Global Warming who's religious fervor of "the truth" will lead them to burn SUVs and such. On the other hand, you've got the "unbeliever" who think the zealots are nuts...

Is it druidism, paganism, all other "isms", or just downright BS?

Would Al Gore be considered the "Pope" of these new movements? And G.W. Bush the "Anti-Christ"?

I posted it in two sections - the "Environment" section, and "Religion and Spirituality" section. There were some interesting answers - and a lot of answers which just reinforced my opinion that yes, Environmental and Green activists have basically become a new religion for the 21st century.

...and sorry for the thread hijack.

As for Park City mandating that land owners cap or seal any mine hazards on their properties to keep the unwary person/dog from falling in - if the mines are on PRIVATE PROPERTY, wouldn't the idiot who fell into the shaft have been TRESPASSING? It's just another case of "government" butting in where they're not wanted.

[one_bad_rover]

PC and mine closures.

So this is interesting, because a mine is a feature of the land. Id fight this tooth and nail in court. Show it as historical and a potential future producer.
Problem is most people are holding these mines cause they think that one day they are going to sell them and get rich. The threat of legal action makes them bow quicker than a cat in a rainstorm.
And they completely devalue their mines doing this as well, if you can access it, you cant assess it, and therefore, cant sell it. But thats not what the fed is going to lead with. It would be good to get Russ involved and drag PC to court, ****, they have the cash to burn in remediation.

[rhartill]

So this is interesting, because a mine is a feature of the land. Id fight this tooth and nail in court. Show it as historical and a potential future producer.
Problem is most people are holding these mines cause they think that one day they are going to sell them and get rich. The threat of legal action makes them bow quicker than a cat in a rainstorm.
And they completely devalue their mines doing this as well, if you can access it, you cant assess it, and therefore, cant sell it. But thats not what the fed is going to lead with. It would be good to get Russ involved and drag PC to court, ****, they have the cash to burn in remediation.

Already looking into it. Anyone know of a property owner up there who is not happy with the prospects of inventorying and then sealing their property? OR anyone know anyone who wants to sell/deed property to a group ready to fight this?

Russ Hartill

http://www.adoptamine.org

[sanpet]

Park City

rhartill I believe Park City has some of the most expensive Land in the USA. A friend who was the Park City building inspector has told me of people paying a million $$$$$$$ just for a building lot.

[one_bad_rover]

might have a chunk of mineland up there shortly... will update on May 27th.

[Kiel]

Nice Corey, you will fit right in! Good luck

[one_bad_rover]

Im not sure if I should resent that comment. Im sure they will love me if I get the chunk of land Im watching. Its patent and I should have full control!

[rhartill]

Great, I'll try to get a copy of the map of the Park City area under this ordinance...it does seem to include the Silver King, Judge and other properties to the northwest of Main Street. LMK on the 27th!